A lot of people want proof that Paul didn't know Gina. It's easy to say no, he didn't, but much harder to find evidence he did. If it exists, you can help us.
We have had people searching for two days now to find anything that states whether or not Gina and Paul have met in person, and we haven't found anything yet. We don't think the picture of the larger woman from Paul's flickr account was Gina, because the faces were different. Gina's gallery had pictures of Paul, but none of them together. Paul's flickr account had no pictures of Gina, just of her friend we knew visually as "Pepe."
If ANYONE has an email, or post from Paul/Pepe/Blake/Gina that states they were together, please send it on. If you have pictures of Paul and the pictured young lady we knew as "Pepe" together, please send it on.
And if anyone can have the cf.com boards re-instate Gina's posts on their board, that would be infinitely helpful.
For just one user name, Gina had almost 700 posts on one board. We know now she had many user names, on many forums. In fact some of the most damming evidence against Gina came from her posts on these forums, some of which people sent to us. If you find anything that connects these two by something other than phone or email, please send it.
The boards have agreed to help us by keeping all content that is currently there up, but if you find something, PLEASE screen shot or download it as well. There are no guarantees it will stay that way.
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How do you know that horse riding Gina is graceandchip/chippedaway/whatever? Anyone can go into public fora and create whatever username they feel like. Hell, I could go sign up as quoof or clamshellmuni if I felt like it (which I don't). Bottom line - Paul is the only one who has been legitimately linked to this mess.
This website is run by Paul. Don't you get that people? It's written in his style, yesterday he was "pissed" and today wants to "put Pepe behind him". He called Pauls post "the truth" and keeps trying to divert attention away from Paul and towards some imaginary Gina.
Could you post the contact information for the authorities handling this information please.
Anon 11:17 - I knew a "Chippedaway" (who claimed to have CF) on some forums nearly three years ago, and her avatar was a picture of herself and her horse. Her signature also referenced Blake, with a "rest in peace, best friend" sort of message. Seems like Gina to me.
Could you post the contact information for the authorities handling this information please.
I think anonymous (11:22 AM) #1 and the many other adamant comments trying to dispel the belief that Gina exists, is Gina herself. I think she is trying to cast doubt on the website and Paul to direct attention away from her. There are PHOTOS of her and she is 'known' by many in the small time horse event world that she participates in. They know her as her blog and chat names. She does exist I wouldn't let wiggle her way out by pinning this site on Paul.
I am with holding judgement on whether Paul and Gina were in cahoots. I just think all these sort of 'angry and defensive' posts trying to get people to think that Gina did not exist are very suspicious!
I am saddened by this whole thing.
I am anonymous 11:22 and my name is Wendie.
I'm anon at 11:17 and my name is Steph.
I'm not saying horse riding Gina doesn't exist. I'm actually pretty sure she does exist - I've see the pictures. What I'm questioning is her tie to this. No one has shown any evidence or proven that she's in any way involved in this. Paul on the other hand, well, he's all kinds of involved.
DWT, if you read this check your email for the evidence you are looking for on paul/gina
@11:57/Steph: the address given by the Pepe/Gina J. "character" as her own is that of a Fred Fiorentino. Equestrienne Gina's last name is Fiorentino. It's a solid link. However, that's now immaterial as Gina Fiorentino has admitted to being Pepe/Gina J./faux-transplantee.
Gina F. is not well. I think efforts to "take her down" or whatever should probably be reframed as efforts to get her help, because busting a crazy person isn't really productive unless there's treatment involved.
Two Ear infections??
http://www.equinfinity.com/humor.html
click on - Horse Christmas Carol
I am so thoroughly confused! I don't buy for one second that Paul is "innocent" - no way! You're telling me that this entire time, he was getting ALL of the information for the blog FROM Pepe/Gina? How about this post from Day 5:
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Day Five
Huge! They're letting Pepe wake up today. In fact, they've already stopped her sedation. Blake is entering the hospital now and will be with her when she comes to. Pepe will do this on her own schedule, of course, but we will keep you posted about her much-awaited reaction to the amazing series of events over the past four days. She passed the night smoothly. Her HR and BP are still elevated, but her fever is down to 99. Her sats are where they should be. So in addition to rousting her from her long nap, they plan to extubate, allowing her to utter those soon-to-be-famous first words. They will put her back on a simple cannula, but at a liter flow a quarter of the one she was on prior to being vented that final week of her old life. Her 18-or-more tubes will begin coming out, one by one, starting with the breathing tube and probably the NG tube. She likely won't appear completely with it, drugged and drained as she is, but FOP guarantees she will be far more cognizant than anyone at her bedside suspects. From our experience, she might have difficulty getting her thoughts across, but her mind will be processing everything in its lovably idiomatic Peanut way.
So a truly auspicious day for your heroine. Imagine!
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"They're letting Pepe wake up today?" Well, clearly then, Pepe was ASLEEP when this entry was written, where was HE getting this information? From Blake? I thought Blake wasn't even real? And for that matter - WHO was updating Paul during "transplant" and after until she did wake up?
This is all just such a mess. Paul is not innocent. I don't get what he had to gain from it.
i was just reading day 5 .
I chatted with the so called pepe
on the night she claimed she still
had the vent ,I have been on a vent twice and I van tell you that I could
not have typed my name much less chatted like the person in chat was doing.
also if you look at pauls facebook you will see a picture of a group of people inclueding paul at a bar.
look at ( Julie an Kelly) they look like the two girls that played
the parts in this scam.
http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7097&id=527821796#/photo.php?pid=159756&id=527821796
@12:33: Gina, posting as Blake, told Paul these details.
Melissa,
the lies get confusing don't they? According to Paul, Blake was also Gina. He apparently couldn't tell the difference between the two. Sound far-fetched? What part of this story doesn't?
http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7097
id=527821796#/photo.php?pid=159756&id=527821796
12:33 - Why is it so hard for you imagine that Paul received news from 'Blake" while 'Gina' was sleeping?
If this is what you build your case on to disprove that Paul could have been led astray, you need think a little bit. Telephone is not the only means of communication these days! Gina, logged in as 'Blake' could have easily sent the little updates.
This is not very confusing.
You all are getting closer
It's all paul I think.
paul is gina, blake and who ever else he has been.
IF Paul is innocent, then he needs to start acting like someone who is innocent.
Instead of posting some weasel-worded official statement like a politician caught with his pants down, he needs to IMMEDIATELY:
- unlock all the blog posts both on his site and on "Pepe's."
-restore any text or pictures deleted from any of his formerly public accounts
-start COOPERATING with the people who are trying to get to the bottom of this by making himself available online, answering all these questions that people have, and providing references, timelines, etc. in order to PROVE that what he is saying is true.
-duped, "heartbroken," or not... he ate a poisoned cookie and then passed the poison cookiejar to a WHOLE lot of other people. He needs to MAN UP and start taking responsibility for the role he played in this.
All of that applies IF he truly was deceived, himself. I'm not holding my breath, though, because I doubt that was the case. I subscribe to the theory that has been put forth about Gina/Pepe being a literary character invented and "brought to life" by a man with a great deal of writing talent and a voracious appetite for attention.
I'll bet it was a HUGE thrill for you, Paul, to know how many people around the world were hoping, praying, crying, breathing sighs of relief or wailing in agony over words YOU had written!
You probably never thought about the damage you would inevitably wreak upon the hearts and minds of individuals and upon the internet culture of a small community that desperately NEEDS to love and trust and support each other openly.
There are a lot of very good people who are upset, confused, angry, and hurting right now. I hope that a few months of "riding high" were worth it for you, pal.
melissa,
that info could have been relayed to him by the persona 'blake' who was also pepe/gina, so the inconsistency you pointed out is not really implausible.
i won't pretend that i'm not biased towards paul. he is my friend and i admire him immensely. it is odd to me that he could have been duped to such an extent, but it's important to remember his vulnerable emotional/physical state.
paul is reclusive, and many of you may not know him, but there are those of us that do, and have known him for a long time, and while he is certainly brilliant enough to pull of a scheme like this, it just doesn't fit his profile.
i'm sure there is more to this than we'll ever know, and we could easily look back and point out a host of ways that even paul should have known what was up. but he was desperate and dying himself, and very much in need of a reason to fight. it is not unheard of that one would participate so willingly and obliviously in our deceptions. in fact, if we want to believe, we will easily ignore the facts blatantly put before us. this is not something new. it is human nature, and it's easy to exploit.
I really liked your post k-switch. I have known many of folks who 'heard' what they wanted to hear . In fact I have believed plenty of lies and for a long time and when I looked back I was like, "How could I have been so stupid. Everything adds up now!" I think the readers who feel so sure that Paul 'should' have seen the scam need to ask themselves if they have ever fallen for one. Folks can get pretty arrogant looking in from outside. Internet relationships can SEEM really intense and close. The feelinsg can be there, those same types of feelings that have made a lot of the rest of us take WAY too long to figure out that our spouse/friend/family member whatever was taking us for a ride.
Just a thought
A
Photos of Gina
http://www.csdea.org/content.aspx?page_id=188&club_id=659362&module_id=21704&pp=1
I hope some people read this before this comment is removed from the site. I was the 5th person to comment on this site and it was removed. Paul Mooney says on his MySpace account, myspace.com/lungsforlife that he stopped teaching at Oakton Community College in May 2006, but there's still a Paul Mooney in the faculty directory of their website. They are closed for summer and reopen Monday, so I'm going to call and see if there is a Paul Mooney who works there.
Paul might be more articulate than is good for him. Some of the comments by the author of this site are not how most people talk, but sound just like FOP.
Anonymous at 12:17 - you said "However, that's now immaterial as Gina Fiorentino has admitted to being Pepe/Gina J./faux-transplantee." Where/when did she admit to being Pepe/Gina? This is the first time I've seen anything supposedly tying horse riding Gina (Fiorentino) to being involved in this.
anon 1:19...why would your comments about Paul be removed from THIS site? I thought this site was to find out the full truth...
Does it seem like since Paul's "confession" that has been titled "The Truth" on this website, that the owner of this website is really pushing to sweep it all under the rug? Move past it, pray for Paul, Ginas taken the blame...
Some are speculating that Paul is the author of this site since it's blaming "Gina" and saying he was simply a victim, too. It makes me wonder since my post is gone. There are similarities in their writing styles.
So you're telling me that the only communication between Paul and "Blake" was via email? Didn't that raise any flags for Paul? Surely he couldn't have been that stupid.
I'm kinda thinking too that maybe Paul is Gina AND Blake. How would this Gina know ALL of this detailed medical info? I mean, some of it is really detailed. Paul's supposedly went through transplant so he would know the terms, medications and such. Maybe he was getting off on all the attention? *That* sounds alot more feasible to me than this Gina supposedly relaying all of this information to him via a cell phone each day.
Anonymous at 12:17 - you said "However, that's now immaterial as Gina Fiorentino has admitted to being Pepe/Gina J./faux-transplantee." Where/when did she admit to being Pepe/Gina? This is the first time I've seen anything supposedly tying horse riding Gina (Fiorentino) to being involved in this.
>>Only Paul's -The Truth post contains the 'evidence' of Gina admitting to the sham. Nothing coming directly from horseriding Gina, Fake Transplant Gina, Fake Blake, Peanut or any of the other potential names.
And P.S. what's up with the post here saying the site owner's received an email from Paul, but the can't share it yet? Um why not?
This is genius. A real live mystery unraveling before us.
Heck, for all we know, Paul is running this site and getting off on all this "attention" too. Some people really are that sick I suppose - the FOP was found out so he needed another way to get his fix and this blog is it.
anon: 1:19
your comment is there. I read it the first time and just read it again. What is your problem?
Anon at 1:34 - yeah, why not share the email? Why suddenly protect him? Because he's sick? Don't think so - if the guy was seriously concerned about the stress of this affecting his health he wouldn't have emailed the "owner" of this blog in the first place.
I believe all this was done by one person. What are the chances that two people would be crazy enough, and willing to invest that much mental and emotional energy on this - and for what? Yes, maybe there was a Wii and a little money involved, but I think the main thing was a sick need for sympathy/attention.
Paul sounds very intelligent in his writings and I believe he is too smart to be double-crossed like that. It's different for us who just read his updates, but he was supposed to know, love, and admire this person greatly. All I know to do is pray for him to find peace.
@1:34: in PM with someone who spent a lot of time and a lot of late nights keeping her company while she was so sick and sad and hospital-ridden, and also donated for the Wii and sent gifts to "Pepe."
I think what we have here is a masterful writer penning his final chapter. Is this your screenplay run-through for the movie company you're going to pitch to? How the WWW was duped by just one man. How trusting people are. A documentary or work of fiction? Which way will you spin this, brilliant Paul?
OK Im only asking this cause I dont know . . . Is the FBI seriously closed on the weekends? Or is that just a way to postpone talks of actually getting someone of importance to sift through this all? I dont know it just seems odd that the FBI just shuts down, they all go to the beach on the weekend I guess. Maybe we should let Walmart take over the investigation, they are open 24 hours seven days a week.
happier as she waits for new lungs
Sunday, July 13, 2008
Day Eleven
Pepe had a poor night, fighting to breathe. She was sedated with Fentanyl and was being placed on the ventilator at 4 am. Her PaCO2 had climbed into the mid-60s, and her O2 sat had dropped into the 80s -- too low, given the stress her heart has endured. We are waiting for news that she is doing better and is comfortable. This is a very sad turn for her. Please check in.
FOP
Update, 9:24 pm: "I feel better," Pepe says. Yes, says. She was extubated at 8 this evening. She had a new X-ray that showed recession of her pneumonia in the lower lobes. She also had a second bronch in which the doctor cleared much of the mucus and took more biopsies that remained negative for rejection. All great news. Pepe is tired and in some pain but much more comfortable, breathing more easily despite a lingering "roughness" from the remaining infection. Her sat is up to 94 percent on 10 liters. Her PaCO2 has dropped dramatically, into the 40s, not far from normal. She is much less frightened about her status tonight, sensing a turn. Tomorrow, the team says, a few of the six chest tubes might come out. This will go a long way toward relieving her pain. So finally a small, good stretch for Pepe and hopefully a peaceful, event-free night ahead for the "tough little nut" who -- it cannot be understated -- has handled this barely-imaginable process with the utmost poise and courage. FOP stands in awe.
Update, 10:13 pm: Sorry to report this. Minutes ago, just after the last post, Pepe began to struggle desperately for breathe, went into respiratory arrest, and was re-vented. X-ray showed another tension pneumothorax. They are trying to handle it at bedside first. The next step would be another trip to OR -- a trip she does not need tonight. Hope.
Update, 10:27 pm: They could not resolve the tension pneumo at bedside. Pepe is off to OR.
Update, 12:24 am: Pepe was in surgery for an hour. She had her ribs spread for a fourth time. The tension penumo occurred at a site of infection, the lower-right lobe. The surgeon sealed the puncture in her lung and placed another tube. Pepe emerged intact for the time being but extremely unstable, her HR and BP again ranging wildly. She is vented and resting. Tomorrow they will assess how she has come through this latest example of what recently she termed, in a display of gumby insight, her "salty luck." It will be another critical night for her, so if you are still awake, please continue your intentions.
Rest safely, Peanut.
Posted by Clamshellmuni at 7:17 AM
anonymous 1:36 -
I suppose my problem is that I made a mistake. I couldn't find it.
There are many, many more than 2 crazy people in the world and they often tend to find each other.
And all that was communicated to Paul from a scamming person who doesn't have CF? Someone better get Gina a job on ER.
@1:47: Gina F's story is that she DOES have CF, but she's still in decent shape, health-wise.
Dear Paul, Pepe, Peanut, Blake, The Doctors, The Nurses, Gina, The Horse, The dog, The artist behind the pictures, FOP, Clammshellmuni, JedisDream, Graceandchip, ChippedAway, Down With Trolls, Maker of the Bracelet that Paul used and then gave to Blake to use on Pepe (the beaded thingy),
Could you please post the email you wrote as Paul so we can all see it?
You referenced it: 'We received an email from Paul, the contents of which are not available for posting at this time, but we feel we will be able to share with you his sentiments very soon.'
Thank you.
And to the poster about the FBI being closed and Walmart being in charge of the investigation...that made me LOL.
That's what I'm saying @1:47. Way too many medical terms flying around.
Guys learning medical terms, copying ideas from other
cf transplant blogs( there are a bunch of them), and from what we have heard from experienced people getting the details pretty confused anyways, is no great feat. This person lives with her parents, she does not have a job, she stays up all night reading blogs. Inventing the light bulb - hard. Learning cf terminology and post op complication scenarios - not hard. It is all on Wikipedia.
Paul and Blake/Gina are not the same person. CONCLUSIVE PROOF of this fact has been offered to the owners of this site and they have not followed through to obtain it.
Paul is well know and has met others in the CF community in real life. Gina/Blake has not. Gina is not a creation of Paul's writing or mind, as stated the proof of this has been offered.
That proof would not 100% guarantee Paul was not aware of the scam by Gina/Blake. But, normally people who do this do not have accomplices. If Paul is not Blake/Gina (and the proof of that fact does exist), then it is unlikely he would be an accomplice to the fraud. This was a fraud of emotions not significant financial gain. Its not consistent with Munchausen to have an accomplice and it wouldn't make sense.
@1:47: Gina F's story is that she DOES have CF, but she's still in decent shape, health-wise.
Not according to Nathan on Confessions of a CF husband
Ah yes...more talk about the ever elusive "proof" that's floating around. If I were Paul, I'd be sharing the proof myself to anyone who would listen in order to prove my integrity.
Anon 1:52...
if the site people wont tell us..then you can if you submitted the proof they arent one in the same..
@1:54: your point? All I know is what Gina F. herself said.
Is it really that complicated of a concept to grasp?
My POINT is if she doesn't have CF, and someone who DOES have CF was writing the blog, isn't it a reasonable assumption that the one WITH CF WHO WAS WRITING THE BLOG is probably guilty of more than meets the eye here?
1:58
No, not really.
I think the point was that she was Lying about her situation. She asked this guy to keep the website for her.
Just because he has cf doesn't make him 'guiltier'.
Learning about a disease and pretending to have it on an online community is not that difficult.
Has anyone heard anything from this Gina? So far we have one confession from her that Paul told us about. Anyone? Anyone other than Paul anonymously posting that he too has heard from Gina and she confessed?
@1:52
Paul is the OWNER of FOP website. He writes (or rather wrote) the posts under the name "clamshellmuni" which incidentally is the same blog name he uses for HIMSELF.
None of us have anything to gain from this. We're humans, we're curious about what is happening. But the bottom line is, it does not matter if there is one person or one hundred people involved in this scam that was FOP etc. It has affected us the same. The FBI is full of good people (DH was one of them and would likely be disturbed at my even commenting on that). They know what they are doing and will figure this out.
Anonymous said...
@1:47: Gina F's story is that she DOES have CF, but she's still in decent shape, health-wise.
August 16, 2008 1:50 PM
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Just a few days ago she posted on another site that she has Aspergers... without any mention of CF.
I used to like Nate (CF Husband) now I think he comes off condesending. He hasnt handled the Pepe thing very well.
Tons of people have met Paul. He had a benefit concert, he's around in numerous places, and has been forthright. Paul exists.
Gina F. created "Pepe" and "Blake" as different facets of her personality. Neither of those "characters" exists. Gina F. has some serious psychological/personality issues that Paul, for whatever reason, didn't pick up on. We can't fault him that, because we didn't see it, either.
The bottom line is that Gina F. created "Pepe" because she liked Paul, but thought he couldn't fall in love with her, so she made up someone she thought he could.
It would be helpful if people could at least TRY to put away the torches and pitchforks with respect to Paul. This is understandably difficult for him, and damn, you people are harsh! It's been all of about 24 hours since this broke, and his first impulse was probably to sit back and go "oh, holy ****" -- NOT come on here, to a hostile mob, and sit and be grilled for hours and days on end.
We know that Gina F. has perpetrated some nasty stuff, but give Paul a chance to wrap his mind around things before you indict him based on his not conforming to your desired interrogation schedule.
-- "Lucy," writer of 12:17, 12:45, 1:42, 1:50, and 1:57.
He had enough time to set up this blog and pull down his sites...
@2:18: what if he didn't set this one up? Are you 100% certain that he did? If so, how?
My point is that Gina F. has admitted the fraud. Paul maintains his innocence, and the fact that he's not dealing with this the way YOU want him to is not evidence of guilt. It's evidence of you and he being separate people.
-- "Lucy"
Again, has anyone seen or heard Ginas confession other than Paul?
http://www.transplantbuddies.org/tbx/messages/5/25989.html?1218790858
check out the comment by Q at 1:05 am. Nothing new.
If there is any doubt, I'm happy to provide proof that Paul spoke to "Gina" on the phone, I have witnessed him conversing with her more than once. I, myself, have spoken to her at least twice by phone while Paul was undergoing his transplant surgery. I can assure everyone that this woman is a masterful actor. She was able to fool me (a CF patient and registered nurse with 10 years of acute care setting experience) into thinking she was critically ill CF patient. I'm happy to swear to these statements and I truly hope that this will dispel any doubt that should remain in people's minds that Paul is Gina and Blake. He's not.
kbn
hi all
I am very proud of the owner of this site to investigate this case along. WOW, you must have been very busy for days on end collecting all your evidence. If you want to ask my anony opinion, I think Paul is gina and blake.
Paul had a miserable transplant expeience according to him and probably is taking out all his frustrations on everyone instead of getting his health in order.
When all is said and done someone should call his transplant center and let them know all of the bad things he said about them on his blog and tell them all the crap he pulled with his new lungs. Is this the way to give appreciation for an extention of your life Paul?
Taking money from innocent people who are broke themselves to help pay your rent for your home while you were in Pitt is not right?
Paul you are pathetic as they come.
I hope you get what you deserve. Keep praying and holding onto your beads. Where are Pepe beeds that she was wearing? lol how pitiful paul.
It is so sad how everyone is taking Paul's side on cf2chat. Are they acting like sheep? They are afaid to say how they truly feel because of peer pressure? I wonder how many more legit cf members knew all along about the pepefake scandal? Probably more than meets the eye. Everyone wake up.
He is just way to guilty for words and hopefully his A$$ will be busted soon. If he was such a good writer, he would have thought everything out well in advance. Why did he apopologize for pepe?
He is probably skinny and losing weight because all he does is sit on his Skinny A$$ all day and creates drama. Is this the way to exercise your new lungs Paul?
Someone should call his disability office and report him for working up scams so he will lose his diaability. He is obviously capable of working.
This story is far from over.
I don't know what to say other than I hate this whole situation.
I have known and talked to Paul for several years now and he helped me make it through my transplant process as we were walking the same path at the time. I talked to "gina" several times as well but never really made a connection with her because she didn't talk when I had spoken with her. She was just kind of there.
One thing I wanted to say is I do NOT believe you will ever find anything showing that Paul and Gina were ever together in the same pysical location. Paul is very much one to be concerned with cross contamination of CFers and would never have put himself in a position to give her something before his transplant or to contract anything from her post transplant (when he believed her to be a true CF patient waiting for Transplant).
I know he cared truly for her and loved her in a way you give your all to a friend. Any person that knows him will know that what he does for his friends he does out of love and a desire to give people a chance. As he said to me he had a long good life before he needed a transplant but the younger CFers in need of transplant didn't have the chances he had and he wants or wanted that for us. He wanted that for me (I am 26) and he wanted that for "Gina" who claimed to be roughly 22 or something.
Please cease and desist the accusations directed at him. I can understand the frustrations and feelings of betrayal but honestly. He has a lot on his plate now and when I spoke with him about this the other night he seemed just as stunned as so many of us and more deeply hurt than ANY of us. This is someone that he often put before his own needs because he thought she needed someone and he was there for her. Now because he was a faithful friend - much as he has been to me. He is being labelled and held responsible for something that though yes he was a part of unknowingly he is NOT the one to blame or the cause of the whole situation.
Lindsey
26 w/CF/CFRD and Transplant
Has Gina confessed to anyone other than Paul?
anon 2:26
Paul wrote that at 1 a.m. and his 'the truth' statement was written previously at 9:15 p.m. the same day. It doesn't quite add up.
Did you witness Ginas confession? Im sure there is a Gina Fiorento out there who rides horses. But did anyone other than Paul speak with Gina and did she confess to them?
Lucy,
Look. Gina admitted whatever to Paul... not to "us" so therefore, we have no guarantees she even exists.
Whoever posted about Nathan being condescending...seriously? Could you just get over yourself for a little while? He has had over 6 million hits to his blog. People care about what he thinks about this situation, but really... i mean... his wife is recovering from surgery, battling cancer, and his baby is still fighting her way to health...
This has nothing to do with them. Their family should not in any way be pulled into the drama of this ridiculous fiasco.
Oh, and no... Paul Mooney is not listed in the faculty directory of Oakton Community College in IL.
Has anyone just looked up her number in a phone book and called her to ask her side?
@2:33: No, the admission wasn't to Paul. (Well, she did admit it to Paul, but that's not the admission I was talking about.) The admission I disclosed was a direct confession from Gina F. to someone who is NOT Paul.
-- "Lucy"
Right...someone not Paul. I have never seen so much coverup and deception. Seriously, if people just spoke the truth about this situation there wouldn't be thousands of hits a day on this site any longer. People who donated, prayed and cared deserve the truth. Not Paul's truth. THE truth
There are so many people that are loving the drama of all of this aren't there? Ask yourself if you are one of them? Enjoying digging the claws in and having a good old bitch?
I don't know or never had any contact with 'Gina' or 'Paul', and because I have found no CONCRETE proof, don't believe one thing from another, but I do know that I am mature enough not to sling accusations around, spit out mean, nasty and frankly spiteful comments when there is no concrete proof to do so, only 'loose' and 'debatable' proof that you have chosen to use because it's the nearest thing you have and without it the drama might have to stop and that wouldn't be so much fun.
I don't how most of you can sleep at night. You're like baying wolves. There are ways and means of trying to find out the truth whilst also acting your age and having some respect for yourselves.
Some of these comments make me sick. Some of you are saying things about others that say an awful lot about yourself. There are ways of giving your opinion in a decent way, but I guess you're not decent people.
To all the naieve CF patients out there that believe Gina was so sick. Don't you think Paul was smart enough when he spoke to so called pepe that he could tell if she was sick? If she had cf which is not true, he would simply know by how she spoke. When someone is very ill with CF, They can barely talk, they are filled with mucus etc... Paul is obviously a big skinny liar and those who are taking his side are quite naieve to say the least.
How smart can paul really be if he thought he could keep pulling this scame off? Paul has a split personality which is pepe, blake and his crazy self.
Just because someone has 6 million hits doesn't mean they are not condescending. The 6 million hits may be adding to the ego.
@2:57: BITE ME, DUDE. The admission wasn't to me. It was to a close friend, who hasn't yet had the desire to subject himself to this site. He was a close friend of Pepe, and is, himself, pretty upset about all of this.
I'm one of the many who thought about Pepe a lot, and hoped fervently that she was doing well. I feel stupid, too, but I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, frothing about how everybody and everything is a scam, and being totally un-constructive. I'm disclosing what I'm comfortable with, and trying to provide what information and perspective I can, with the aim of helping the situation, not blustering and being sarcastic and useless.
(Yes, I'm looking at you, 2:57.)
This isn't a new thing. It's been happening since the very beginning of Ye Olde Internets. I've seen people like this before, and it's always incredibly upsetting, but if people can at least make an attempt to behave like adults and sensibly figure things out, it makes things a lot easier.
-- "Lucy"
Hey,
What about the Pepsi angle? Can someone get that post back and we can see if there is really a person named working at Pepsi who sent the gift to "Gina".
Also, where did they send the gift to?
P.S. Reading the post,it struck me that it seemed like it was a cheap token from a large company to someone fighting for their life.(magnets and 2 coupons and a bag)
Michelle
Hey 3:02 , looks like you enjoy a good old bitch just as much as the rest of us.
Your little rant shows the same spirit!
You usually most in others what is most true about yourself.
That should have read:
You usually hate most in others what it most true about yourself.
Ok that's better.
3.13
I have 100% concrete proof, right before my eyes, which is exactly the point I was making.
Try again.
AMEN to poster anonymous at 3:09!!!!
We removed three contents from this site. All three contained information about Gina's friend whose picture was taken unknowingly. We asked AFTER posters began commenting about her that users not reveal her identity.
If there had been a way to edit that information out of the comment, we would have gladly done that instead!
The information about Paul's employment can be found in other commenters posts as well - they were not removed.
Ha! Proof or not, you enjoy playing the arrogant and condescending judge. It makes you feel so righteous now doesn't it. : )
Enjoy your ride on your high horse!
Ok, I am out of here. I prefer to play with grown ups.
3.21
Your comment is proof indeed of your attitude. Having fun are we?
Goodbye, find someone else to rip to shreds for your entertainment.
Hey Jill,
You started it : )
The 3.02 - 3.13 - 3.22 - fight is funny. But c'mon this blog is here for people to vent their frustrations and try and get answers. Can't we all be friends?
WHERE IS PAUL? I don't care if he's "sick" or "fragile" or whatever else. He needs to quit hiding behind the skirts of the various ladies on here who are defending him.
We're not asking him to run a marathon. We're asking him to do a little typing. He certainly wasn't too "sick" or "fragile" to do that a few days before while in FOP-mode!
Paul Mooney's listing on Oakton Community College's website:
http://www.oakton.edu/cgi-bin/web500.pl
http://www.oakton.edu/cgi-bin/web500.pl?op=searchresult&searchfor_fullname=Paul+Mooney&searchfor_title=&searchfor_ou=&searchfor_telephonenumber=&searchfor_mail=&Search=Search
Sorry. Here's the full link to Oakton's listing of Paul Mooney.
I'm convinced Paul played a major role/the lead in FOP, and I'm this close >< to believing Paul acted alone. From what I know, there's no evidence that horse riding Gina was involved in this elaborate scheme.
Did you achieve your desired outcome with this, Paul? Hopefully, because I'd hate to think this was all for naught.
Yeah, alright. Pass what you've got on to the authorities and let them do the rest. You've got all the facts you're all gonna get (especially my fellow commentators), all this supposition isn't gonna get anyone anywhere...
Paul's come out and said he was a victim. If the authorities get involved then it won't take them long to figure out how true that is.
Pete, Australia.
lol. yes, it's a govt. office. they close on the weekends. their offices and availability to the public closes on the weekends. if a major crime occurred, like bombs, interstate homicides, etc.,...then field agents would be paged/enacted..they're on call for that. lol. too much tv-watching, i swear. And yes, I worked for a prosecutor's office, and we handed off cases to the FBI occasionally, so I'm speaking from having an idea.
I haven't gotten the idea that the DWT blog is operated by Paul. I think the site owners are just trying to be mature, verify things before posting, get clear answers before posting...and generally trying to have some integrity.
To the person who asked if FBI offices are actually closed on weekends. My mom works in a small FBI office (she's not an agent) and yes, they are closed on weekends. Unless there is something huge going on, they work a regular M-F, 9-5 schedule in her office.
To the person who asked if FBI offices are actually closed on weekends. My mom works in a small FBI office (she's not an agent) and yes, they are closed on weekends. Unless there is something huge going on, they work a regular M-F, 9-5 schedule in her office.
Paul is listed as Adjunct Faculty.
For those of you who are not from academia that designation is not the same as regular tenured faculty and could well be for someone who is not actually teaching at the moment for whatever reason
do you people who don't think Gina exists honestly think that Paul created all those various identities, joined all those forums, grabbed some random girls pics and videos of horses, and posted them? Seriously?! how would that make sense? you're saying you think Paul created FoP, of a fictional girl for amusement? THEN....he created all those identities, and posted all those horse videos/photo with all those identities, even though they directly contradict THE ENTIRE FoP blog?!
that makes zero sense. It seems pretty obvious that Gina existed, and she was perpetuating the CF life, while at same time, posting about her REAL life, under different identities...thinking no one would put 2+2 together. And realize she was one and the same.
I mean, I'm not completely convinced Paul didn't know something about Gina's double-life, but give me break, it seems pretty obvious that girl is Minnesota was involved in all of this.
It does not matter who Gina/pepe is. What matters most is, what Paul stands for. If he was so smart he would know by talking to her how his made up fictional character was. How did he know what was happening in the hospital? Who did he speak to, a vented pepe? Give me a break here. He thinks he is smart but his drugs must be twisting his writing abilities to keep the story straight. Maybe that is why his transplant is going well.
Poor paul/pepe
5:48
Great post. You are one of the few people here that seem to get the fact that paul and gina being the same person makes no sense. I, like you, am reserving judgement on who is guilty in all of this. But really, pretending to be an overweight horse lover from Minnesota and a struggling cf transplant patient at the same time.
I still can't believe people are trying to write Gina off as a figment of Paul's imagination.
I think most of the vehement accusations of Paul being behind everything and which state that Gina is obviously fictional come from Gina herself.
If Gina F. was not involved at all I wonder why she thought she was receiving money/gifts/cards addressed to Gina J. at her address. Makes no sense - she was obviously involved.
For starters, I was also fooled by Gina. I had even talked to who I thought was Blake over the phone. I did note the similarity between the seemingly two voices, but didn't pay too much mind to it. Gina has also confessed to me, that it was all a lie. Blake does not exist, it was just Gina.
I like looking at evidence to form a conclusion, but I don't care for forming a conclusion, then digging for evidence to support the already formed conclusion....
Perky
Regarding the name Paul Mooney still being on the Oakton CC website. I work at a university and my department handles our website. A friend of mine taught there for 5 years, he left this past May and his name is still up there. As is my former boss, who left in Oct. 2006. That's a college update thing, probably nothing to do with the guy himself.
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